Wow what is up with the qoutes not working? Its funny but very strange
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LOL wow⊠i feel kinda stupid now whateverâŠthats kinda random to do that though lol
Hey guys! I decided to go ahead and post this song, since itâs and written to be epic, and itâsâŠepic. Well here you go!
One of the best use of scales Iâve ever seen, next to fishrocker level of scaliness.
EPIC
Ovbiously.
I didnât have to listen to the whole thing to determine its EPICNESS.
Me either! I havent even listened to half of it yet!
Oh dear, I think weâve got another Roastmasters on our hands.
Normally I wouldnât criticise people if they didnât ask for it, but I donât like your cocky attitude. I can take a joke - where a musician might playfully suggest that their song is the best song in the world at the minute, but theyâre only allowed to do that once. Or twice maybe, depending on their charisma. But you really canât go around assuming that all your songs are perfect, jokingly or not.
Alrighty then, your song;
I think too many people were fooled with your technical ability when it comes to theory. Most (not all) of the scales were perfect, and most of the arps were rhythmically perfect, yes. But thatâs where it stops being so âepicâ. The beginning is too strong. That can work for professional music, but rarely for Notessimo music. That whole section of 8|2|9 is completely ridiculous. It follows practically no laws of composition. Itâs just ridiculously fast and loosely follows a scale. What was up with the rests at the end of those sheets? They were terrible. That section from 10 â 17 is quite nice, but completely irrelevant to the song. It just doesnât fit. And that whole section from 18 to the end is just clichĂ©d and boring because you donât introduce anything exciting except those arpeggios at the end of that section (sheet 23) which, it has to be said, are a little out of rhythm. The sheet twenty scale is a bit out of tune (which, personally, ruins it for me, though Iâll admit thatâs just opinion). Overall, your chord progression isnât ground breaking at all, giving the whole piece quite a generic feel (apart from the 8|2|9 part, but weâve already established that that was just crazy). And your use of instruments isnât top quality either - Iâd work on what youâre producing with the metal guitar.
Please donât take any of this to offense - apart from those (admittedly minor) flaws, the song was decent, and you should be very proud of your compositional skills (which are pretty good, just not as epic as you think they are). A fair amount of people have trouble following any sense of rhythm or tune, but youâve got it pretty nailed. Just donât get too self-righteous. Delusions of Grandeur and whatnot. With that mindset, you will eventually begin to think youâre better than everybody else. Someday you might make a pretty crap song, and youâll assume that itâs perfect in every way because thatâs just the mindset you have when you display your music, and you might just get too big of a shock when someone tells you that itâs pretty bad (I think that guy Unknowned got a bit upset when people started criticising his songs, if you want an example. It might have been something else, though, Iâm not 100%). Nobody likes to lose a talented artist from itâs community because they got a bit upset when their standard started to slip.
Anyway, I hope Iâve given you some good advice. Chances are youâll get a bit upset (most people do when I tell them stuff like this), just remember that I think youâre pretty talented, and I only have the best intentions.
Oh, and Iâm only joking about the Roastmasters thing, heâs not as bad as he used to be, actually. Or maybe he is, I havenât checked his thread in a while.
I get it, although Iâd like to point out that I never said that this songs was the best in the world, only that I wrote it to BE epic. Whenever someone tells me a song is epic, whether itâs mine or not, I expect it to be epic, whereas most people use it to decribe a song as awesome or amazing. Epic songs, like many off of Final Fantasy and The Lengend of Zelda, are written to BE epic, but not all songs are epic. There are happy songs and sad songs, but none of them are written to BE epic. They are called epic, but in my opinion, just because its a good song doesnât mean itâs am epic piece. I really donât like it when I write a nice beautiful piece, written either to be nice or nostalgic about things people lost, and someone tells me itâs epic. Most of your points are very agreeable, considering there are no triplets in this game, so I guess Iâm alright with everything. Thanks for actually giving me critism for a good song instead of just saying, âitâs goodâ and moving along.
EDIT: My only complaint is that now I expect a lot of people who liked my song will now change sides and say: Yeah, I didnât like sheet 23 either, or something.
Ah, my bad then. Iâm just so used to people using âepicâ in the colloquial sense where they really mean âincredibly goodâ or âamazingâ. To be fair though, I wouldnât really class that as an epic song, so my natural reaction would be assume the other meaning (to me, an epic song has, primarily, a lot of orchestral instruments, dynamic build ups, and over-the-top intense harmonies. See: Blind Guardian).
I donât think any of the points I made would change anyoneâs opinions too much. But if itâs a point I made about a part they glossed over when listening to, and only just realised that they didnât like it that much, havenât I done you a favour in causing people to reaffirm itâs standard? Then youâd know to avoid composing similar parts in the future, and people would like your songs even more.
Itâs nice to know weâve got another composer who is willing to accept negative criticism. I dislike people who refuse to help themselves.
Wow, quick reply. As for the Youtube video, it was epic. And yes, I do have to agree that most epics are made using a big orchestra (which I did use somewhat). But I do have to ask: where would you catagorize my song? I still believe itâs epic, but Iâd like to see where youâd put it. As for the change sides deal, thatâs just what Iâve seen too many people do, they post theyâre replies based on what they see other people post, so as with my other song on here: FourShadow, people told me about the mood shifts being random about four times before someone actually admitted they were being repititious.
Sadly, âepicâ is one of the few terms used to categorise songs that isnât an insult, so apart from epic and not epic, Iâm not sure of any other way to class it.
I think there are little bits of epic poking through (the arps in 18, the build-up and eventual key change in 23-24), but the rest of it is too rocky to classify the song epic as a whole. The rest of the song has too many hard rock riffs, not enough flamboyance (too little an amount of big powerful chords, obvious harmonies, melodic phrases and key changes), and the wrong tone/instruments. Iâd say itâs just alternative rock. Pretty awesome alternative rock, but I just donât see it as epic.
I know what you mean about the changing opinions thing - peer pressure is rife around the interwebs. But sometimes opinions arenât just blind agreement with a more powerful figure, or a person following their friendsâ opinions. Sometimes anotherâs opinions cause them to realise something they hadnât realised before, and their new opinion is a lot truer than their previous one. Itâs hard to tell - seeing as most opinions are valid points. Just accept them all unless any opinions conflict with each other. In which case just go with the one closest to your own thoughts.
God, I feel old today.
Your songâŠthose hyperspeed parts seemed kinda out of placeâŠi liked your use of panning that was greatâŠi myself wouldnt consider it epic but a couple notches down maybeâŠthe semi-epic or a bit above areaâŠthe composition was great and there was some great partsâŠmaybe some parts you could reorder
It was definatly WAY better than anything ive ever doneâŠwhich the best would be on this forum Lightning Rock and that was a collab
i give it maybe a 8.5/10 mostly for great effort and great use of the fender guitar
orchestrals are DEFINATLY EPIC
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THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?!?!?
LOL wow that isâŠwowâŠi cant really come up with words for how random that isâŠyet not truly since you were mentioned a good amount in DCs post
New song: Assassinated. Here it.
Hmm⊠uhh⊠er⊠uhâŠ
Iâll let somebody else critique this song.
Sorry!