Wow, that was amazing J-b-than (didn’t feel like typing your full name).
I’ve actually started working on my version of the song The Extreme
I don’t want to seem rude but alot of that is fairly obviously wrong. The Strat Guitars in sheet 1, for a start, as well as part of the piano melody, and the trumpets in sheet 2.
That said, here’s my progress.
It’s definitely getting harder as I go along. The second half of sheet 5 is driving me insane for some reason. I’ve been tweaking volumes on that thing for ages, and I feel like I get a completely different sense of what’s dominant depending on whether I listen with headphones or on speakers. I think I’ll just lower the volume on the lead (about 5 instruments in that) and increase the Ocarinas a tiny bit and then just continue. I’ve been busy but I’ve got this weekend free so with luck I can cane it and make some more progress.
Flip, yours was good, but Joll’s was amazing!
mind = blown.
I find it interesting how people do echos. In terms of physical reality, it’s the reflection of the sound, leaving basically a slight delay between the first part of the sound and the echo, where most people (at least on notessimo, anyway) start their echos at the same time as the note. That is , however, a small matter.
In regards to that sheet 5, I’ll just note this: the lead guitars are most clearly heard, second being the ocarina. In the latter half, the strings are heard more clearly than the ocarina, but the melody is still heard (at least, from my standpoint).
I love how you used a tuba as a semi-trumpet. The actual trumpets in sheet 4 are just a smidgeon too loud.
I don’t particularly applaud your instrument choices in the intro. The electric piano sounds too… tinny and the whatever drums like thing has too strong of an attack. It also doesn’t lend itself too well for those echos.
I also don’t remember that cymbal crash being so loud (it could just be my volume settings)… and also would prefer either Bass Drum #1 or #5 instead.
Very nicely done. (but too bad about the beginning part, or lack thereof)
Thanks for the detailed feedback!
I’ve actually used lots of different ways of doing echo and reverb. I think of “longer, quieter notes in the same place” as reverb, and “quieter notes just afterwards” as echo, though I don’t know if that actually corresponds with the proper terminology. The former is much more of a pain to do as you need a seperate layer (and I’ve started running out of layers…), but you can substitute the latter for the former in some circumstances, depending on the instruments. You can also get lots of variation by doing it with a different instrument, and/or going an octave lower or higher. I kinda wish I were a bit more refined with it, though, some parts have got really messy.
The trumpets in sheet 4 have been a bugbear for ages. I keep trying to replace them with french horns since it has a slower attack, but it just doesn’t work for some reason. I think you’re right about the volume, though, I’ll lower it a bit.
Choosing instruments for the opening was actually really hard. At the time, all the “plucked” instruments seemed too harsh. The kalimba is indeed alot “sharper” than the equivalent used in the original, but I picked it since it has a ticking sound that’s present in the original as well. It’s alot louder, but I felt it worked to just emphasise different parts differently. In retrospect the vibraphone or glockenspiel would probably have worked, but I’m happy with the effect the kalimba has. As for the pianos, I did try to go with the actual grand piano, but it seemed off-key somehow (it was the other way around in sheets 2-3 though). It was also kinda… buzzy? The electric piano had a kind of spacey feel, which I liked.
I’m actually not a huge fan of bass drums 1 or 5 (at least when I’ve tried them), they seem to have some noise in them. The bass drum in the original kinda just sits in the lower ranges alot (especially when the piece gets really busy), so I thought #3 was the best suited. You’re definitely right about the cymbals, though, I was trying too hard to get a sharp transition from quiet to loud but in retrospect it ended up rather abrasive.
The beginning part will be the last thing I attempt. I expect it to be a huge pain in the ass, and there’s no point getting bogged down with the hardest bit and giving up before doing anything else. 
Hopefully I’m not butchering musical terminology here, my actual knowledge of music theory is basically zero.
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I know. I wish i could play piano like that. (or even at all rofl)
Watch his Those Who Fight and JENOVA videos too. There just as insane
Hey people, I’ve started working on Otherworld from Final Fantasy X. I Only have worked a minute into the song but here it is.
sounds good keep going
That was very good Scourge!
Really? I think literally every single note in that was wrong.
If you hadn’t said it was Otherworld I would’ve had no idea what song you were trying to cover. I don’t wish to be discouraging but you should really actually listen to the original while doing these things. Personally I like to get a lossless version and bring it into Audacity so I can listen to little bits over and over easily, or even slow it down or eq it to really isolate individual parts. Sheet music and tabs are also extremely useful, of course.
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXU3j5sXhk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXU3j5sXhk)I don’t actually think this is an ideal song to cover with a limited soundset like this anway (especially given the dirty vocals), but if you try again, and actually attempt to match the chords and drums in the original I’m sure you can turn out something good.
I just wanted an otherworld, I didn’t want to match the guitar because too much metal guitar is bad. And draums are hard to find because there are TOO MANY!!!, Finally, If you want to correct my songs, I’ll let you, Just give me the link, I’ll be happy to see your work!
Um, if you’re not going to match the guitar from Otherworld then you’re not making “an Otherworld”, you’re just making some random unrelated metal song. If you went to see a band and they said they were doing a cover of somebody else’s song, but then did it with different chords, a different melody, and different lyrics, you wouldn’t call it a cover, would you?
There’s no need to get so defensive. I pointed out the mistakes and offerred advice, that’s all. I don’t even have time to work on my own things at the moment (hence no updates on The Extreme for the past two weeks), so I couldn’t correct your work even if I were inclined, which I’m not because it’s not automatically the responsibility of somebody who offers you advice to then do everything for you.
Again, I’m not just setting out to rubbish your efforts and make you feel bad, I’m making valid criticisms and offering advice so that you can improve your own work.
I am sorry but the majority of your comments were criticism. Saying “Every note was wrong” doesn’t help, just like if I told you “your whole reply was complete nonsense”. You also stand alone everyone else likes it, and if its as bad as you say its one of the best original songs on here.
Um, I know my comment was criticism. That’s exactly what it was and what I meant it to be. I’m saying that I’m not on some mean mission to make him or anybody else feel shitty for its own sake, I just pointed out the mistakes in his work in hopes that he might improve it. That’s what criticism is. The magnitude of my criticism was simply appropriate to the magnitude of his mistakes. Do you really want me to detail exactly how much every note and chord was off by? That would take hours, as I would essentially have to cover the entire song myself from scratch, which would defeat the point. As such, I offered the best advice I felt I could, which was to either listen to the song more carefully, or use tabs or sheet music.
“The notes are wrong” is an objective fact. You can’t argue it. Seriously, listen to the song (in the link I posted) and compare it. The easiest part to tell is at about 1:13 in, corresponding to sheets 14-15 in Scourge’s version. If you think that’s accurate I don’t know what to say.
So far, “everyone else” consists of you and Museline. If he or someone else wants to say I’m wrong, or that I’m being out of order, or that I’m just some 13-post noob with half a song to his name and that I have no right to criticise anybody, then I guess I’ll step down, but I still don’t quite get what’s going on here. “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothing at all”? That’s not an attitude I subscribe to.
“One of the best original songs on here” is highly questionable. As it is, it’s incredibly repetitive and pretty awkward and indistinct overall. Your own stuff is much better.
so some of the notes are wrong, but it is incorrect to say every note is wrong, some notes are correct, and if you had a problem with those sheets why not put them in your original post, as something he could work on, rather than saying it sucks and start over.