Music Theory

I know two.

hehe yeah you can say that again.

I don’t know where some people talked about modulating, key changes and chord changes

Here’s an example
Recess - Opening Theme

In the intro (of the song) the loud brass do some bases, and when the piccolo plays, they modulate. When piccolo stops, them modulate again. They do a little Bridge for Trumpets solo. When Trumpet plays, the loud brass change of chord ^^

I was clear?

I have a music theory question, what would a triad that had a third 3 1/2 semitones from the root, and a perfect fifth sound like? Would it be dissonant? Would it be more Major, Minor, or half way between?

The number you used made no sense. Third 3 1/2?

…If you leave out the third, meaning 3 and a half… Between a minor and a major interval… You wouldn’t even have a note. It would sound horribly dissonant.

Some kind of microtonal chord or something. It would be something beyond minor.
I don’t think it would sound that dissonant though. If you had a guitar or something I’m sure you could try it out.

it not actually horribly dissonant. I found some info about it, apparently it’s called a neutral thirds triad

Holy shit apparently the notes B + C and E + F are only half steps between each other.

OH MY GOSH THAT’S SO ADVANCED!

WE NEED TO GO TELL EVERYONE!

You should totally write a book about that. The world must know!

Avast your ass for somewhat of a rant.

Quick question, what the hell can you learn about music in 7 years.

Hey guys I can name all the notes in a D minor seven flat five and I can determine if a scale is in Lydian mode.
Also, I memorized all the chords and scales.

What.

The only time where I can hear music theory being used is typically in jazz. Classical sounding music I guess can still be made, but I can hardly find anything to complex within their music theory; just chord progressions and key changes. (There’s also some vocabulary which affect the music, like stuff that slows it down or some weird word that means to be gradually louder.)

However, note this, I’m not in a music theory class so I wouldn’t know a single bit.
So, tell me what was the most important thing you learned in music theory class?
Maybe your top 5, I want to know if there would be an influence to make me take a music theory class vs something else.

Well, you learn things like scales, intervals, note grouping, transposing, writing music, instruments and their ranges, analyzing songs, non-harmony notes, melodies, chords, singing/clapping etc. I stopped getting classes a few years ago but I did read a theory book.

I think learning theory is very helpful to writing songs, but a lot of it can be a bit tedious. Probably the 5 most important things I learnt were just about scales/keys, chords (like triads), non-harmony notes, melodies, and the basics of composing. But still they weren’t that important, you could always read a book about them and I know you can make good songs with thinking about that stuff.

If you are learning an instrument though it could be handy (in my music school it was required to learn theory if you were learning an instrument).

I definitely see how how melodies and instrument ranges would be useful.
Maybe how composing a song in general could also be nice.

But I really don’t like how some people go 7 years in a music theory class.

I think buying a well-defined book would be better than a class.

Thank you Muse for telling me about these things! :D

Well classes would mostly be writing stuff out and revision and not very much learning new stuff. Also if you take the class with a lot of other people it slows things down. Also you’re probably talking about music in school but I only had a class every week and I did two exams in one year once.

Dont be ironic :D

HE SAID APARENTLY

It allows you to be that “musical prodigy” like that guy down the street, who was born knowing how to write the best songs ever.
After 7 years of classes, you might hear people bragging in the way you’re saying, but If I wanted to make Glory’s Road,
the only way I can do it is through studying all the little sounds of notes, and they get to do it by saying “okay, play D… NOW!” :P

Once you finish the classes, you know every single sound by name in any form, and can make any song sound catchy in any specific way. Once you are that high, people stop thinking you know anything about music theory at all, and think you just happen to be Mozart’s descendant. (Random rant time) Me? I don’t know crap about theory (knowing I vi V IV doesn’t count as theory :D ), and that’s why I get accused of “using to much theory”. All music theory is is the the study of how those people who can write without theory do it. We just check for patterns, and then copy.

It’s most important for people going into film music. They have to make their song sound a certain way, to gain a certain atmosphere on a certain scene while they use the word certain.

Anyways, this is a good book on theory.

If that’s not enough, here. Remember, Jazz has the most theory, so once you know all about that, you can just take some of it away to get to other genres. Except for genres after Jazz… Which is pretty much everything we care about… Crap… All you have to do is figure out what chords are used for newer genres. The guy who wrote this played guitar on Mike Jagger, though.

TL;DR

Watch this (Look Around You - Music - YouTube).

Counterpoint looks really fucking complex.

Yes. To be honest I always thought the opposite: jazz was improvisation and classical was complicated theory.

…You do understand that improv is complicated theory played in real time, right?

EDIT:

Quote from Theory book above:
A great Jazz solo consists of:1% magic 99% stuff that is explainable, analyzable, categorization, and doable.
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OH MY GOSH THIS BOOK HAS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID EARLIER :D

I don’t think it’s complicated to jazz musicians, they just play whatever feels natural to them.